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Coaching Student Making Steady Progress Down in Waist Training

Our present coaching student Dorothy, by her tenth week of waist training has dropped two inches off her waistline and 11 lbs. off her weight! She is pleased, and so am I!

Although she did not set aside time after six weeks to take the mid term photos we request of students, we’ll do that in two weeks at the end of her three months of corset waist training.

Originally Dorothy, a busy professional in the medical field, in her early 40s, decided to try the program because she did not like the direction her weight and shape were moving in. She felt discouraged and down. She thought it was time to get hold of the process and reverse the direction. She told me she was determined to complete the program and give it a good try, and believes so far she has completed 90 to 95 % of what I have asked of her in terms of corset wearing, nutrition changes, and exercise additions to target the waistline muscles.

Recently she was able to  complete a mid term questionnaire and it has some answers that can be helpful to others, to encourage you to try this process for yourself. We report her answers below.

What do you like best about waist training?

A: Awareness of how much I need to eat and changes (down) in hunger level.

What surprised you so far?

A: That I’m not really losing weight but seeing changes in my shape.

(N.B. You can waist train to lose weight, to lose inches, or both!)

What do you feel you have gained so far?

A: Definitely more discipline over my eating habits.

What have you lost so far?

A: I’ve lost some of the pessimism I had about my body.

How have your tastes in food or drink changed?

A: I don’t miss cereal or soda and crave sweets less.

What have others said to you about any changes they noted in you?

A: My sister has noted my midsection looks slimmer and my posture is better.

What advice would you give prospective waist-trainees?

A: Be prepared to learn some hard truths about yourself and be ready to change.

I think the operable words here are “be ready to change.” I just blogged about my decision to give up refined sugar in mid June in my quest to knock an inch off my hips and waist and 5 lbs. off my weight. I had to think and think and finally “decide” to do it, or maybe for me it’s “Decide” with a capital “D” because then I really mean to do something when I Decide. Dorothy “really meant” to do this program because she was “ready to change.”

Although she might not reach the original goals we set for her in weight or waistline inch loss, they were reasonable and do-able, but genetics, work, hunger, issues about the corset (body inflexibility, discomfort, bloating etc.) can get in the way and cause us to pause our efforts. Genes have a lot to do with how and where and when we lose weight and we often cannot control those. So we control and manipulate in a good way, what we can.

Dorothy has managed the tight and longer hours of Corset wearing scheduled as amended the third week, and born up under a good bit of discomfort in order to keep on track for ten weeks so far. That is admirable. Despite travelling out of town to a professional event, delivering a paper there, doing a good bit of overtime at her work in surgery, and other, she has stuck to her promise to herself and to me and to her Training Buddy, to carry thru all the way to see the results. It appears from her weekly checkins and reports that she has not fallen off the wagon nor used hard days or small backtracks to excuse her from completing three months of the adventure.

It’s a bit of a mystery as to what precisely will happen to any given individual who tries waist training. To me,  it’s a fun mystery to solve, an adventure to go on and see how it turns out — but you have to do the homework and turn the pages and answer the quizzes we send, and toe the mark with that tape measure keeping that corset tied down at the day’s level six days per week and do your ‘setting’ techniques of the transverse abdominal and etc.

It’s not easy, but it’s not onerous and you won’t die from putting forth a good bit of effort for only three very very short months. And it works — if you work it!

We’ll report back at the end of Dorothy’s program hopefully with some before and after images for you to picture her results and to be inspired to try the process either in our ROMANTASY coaching program, or on your own following the detailed guidelines we have in our Corset Magic book.

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Sugar … and losing that “Lovin’ Feelin'”


Michaelangelo's Italian "The David" on loan to the US, after some time spent in this country

Michelangelo’s Italian “The David” on loan to the US, after some time spent in this country

You might know a woman who doesn’t care about her weight or shape….but I don’t.

Yet our bodies keep getting bigger and bigger and unhealthier and unhealthier. Waistlines have expanded and expanded and by now I believe the pundits say, about half of Americans are obese and we’re headed for 100% I guess.

More’s the pity that many of us seem to have lost that “lovin’ feeling” for life, and lost our focus on good health, on maintaining zip and vigor, and on pursuing a positive presentation and outlook. We forget how to be gracious human beings and lovingly supportive of others who care to do so, even if we do not.

Some  get bogged down in dissing others who take time to look and feel fine and keep in shape, like those recounted in a recent social media post I read. One of my clients had taken the time to doll herself up, put on a selection from her growing wardrobe of gorgeous custom corsets, and show off her fabulous curves for a girl’s night out. However, she was confounded when she was roundly dissed by her unappreciative girlfriends.

That my client was surprised and disappointed by those negative comments was the surprise to me. They should have been expected:

MirrorgraphicThe reflection of someone taking care of herself and looking fine holds up a mirror to our own failures. Someone else looking fine  points out our own misdirections in life and health, even if a negative response also has to do with petty jealously. We don’t much like that mirror, and often don’t respond in a self-enlightened and helpful way.


So, what helps us to become self-enlightened, to get concerned about going in the wrong direction, and to begin to reverse the trend for ourselves? What helps us to let others live peaceably with their own decisions and to support positive change when it occurs in our friends? What helps us to change our destructive habits?

I’m pretty sure of two things by this point after 20 years of studying corset waist-training, nutrition,  dieting, and motivation. I’m sure that positive change has a lot to do with ego and that it starts at home.

Maybe positive change has to do with three things: (1) Ego, (2)  starting with oneself…and (3) running across the right teacher at the right time.

A month ago I ran into a listing for  the new book “I Love Me More Than Sugar” by Barry Friedman when reading the Book section of my Sunday New York Times. Out of a passing curiosity I decided to purchase a copy just before leaving on an early-June two-week camping vacation, and take it along as one of several choices to pass the time on any given warm sunny day I might choose to sit under a tree at our campsite in Yellowstone, and read. I could possibly pick up some interesting new learning about sugar, right? Might be able to help me help one of my waist-training coaching program students in the future, right?

Only I found out that it actually helped me. At least so far, at least after one week.

I returned last Sunday feeling like a lump of sludge from a s’mores-filled vacation with occasional relief found at the campsite general store in individual-portioned boxes of New York style cheesecake, and the ubiquitous home-made fudge that somehow jumped into my shopping bag at the de riguer candy shop that appears in every single Old West town in America that I know, fudge that shortly thereafter jumped right into my mouth. Delicious fudge. Gooey fudge. For Pete’s sake: what could be more wonderful or justified as indulgence than “home-made” I ask you?

And of course, being on vacation gives one every possible excuse to indulge, right?

But how I felt in my body upon returning from an over-indulgent vacation was only a bit less distressing than how I felt after I looked in the mirror. Stood and looked for a long time, front, side and backside.

I was horrified.

It didn’t happen overnight, but over the past 1.5 years I had seen my figure begin to change substantially from what it had always been. Always. It was just that “wrong direction” in which I was headed as noted by my present waist-training coaching program student, who’d come to me for help in changing it. But it seemed to me that my direction had also been lost and needed changing.

I’d always prided myself in a 24″ waistline that over the past few years had crept up to 25″. And 36″ hips in high school had crept up to over 38″. Ye gads! I’d broken the 38 barrier! The horror of it all–mainly in the crushing blow to my ego. And sense of aesthetics. And how I felt about it all both in my body and spiritually.

Then the sugar book came along. So last week I decided once more to rely on ego. Ego is at once potentially a negative and destructive factor in my life, but also a positive motivator for past beneficial change when I had made it.

I’m not going to recommend the book to you, because it’s a one-pony book and I hate those. Perhaps you do, too. One-pony anything, especially one-pony books that recommend you do anything dead-bang as Friedmann recommends, like cut sugar entirely out of your diet for 30 days starting from Day One, simply don’t work. I’ve tried it before and to me that’s nothing but a recipe for my body to rebel and deliver physical pain, suffering, plumbing backups, other  longer-term negative fallouts, and predictable failure.

I do however, recommend you read the book because like for me, the information used with a mirror you honestly face along with a healthy ego, might help you find some kick-starters to boost forward your own figure and feeling- re-sculpting program.

And I just know you will eventually feel better!


On Monday just past, I decided to gradually cut back refined, added sugars in my diet, and keep eating but less frequently, complex carbs like the brown rice/farro/wheat berries combo I love, with an occasional slice of wheat bread or fresh bakery-made sour dough bread (I asked, and gratefully learned there’s no sugar in the sour dough bread). I avoided white potatoes  this week, but that’s not part of my resolve. After all, we brought home a bag of real Idaho potatoes from Idaho as one of our “disappearing souvenirs.” I don’t intend to let them go bad.

You’ll note above that I say “gradually.”

I didn’t cut out fruit. I didn’t decide to obsessively read food labels (but I am) to cut  out any product with any added sugar, but I did however decide to let my partner finish up the camping cheesecake and fudge if he chose to do so. I decided to not indulge in any sugar dessert for a month. I decided during the week twice to indulge in a bit of organic huckleberry honey we purchased in Yellowstone, but I used only 1/4 teaspoon each day, spread carefully and lovingly on one slice of totally delicious local Wyoming-baked wheat bread (yes, with a bit of sugar added) we’d brought back from our camp store.

Yesterday we visited for lunch our favorite Bay Area fish restaurant. (Ed. note: There’s no better fish served in the world than at Cook’s Seafood in Menlo Park, if you are every lucky enough to go there and drop by for lunch or dinner. I’ve cemented what seems like a life-long friendship I hope, with the business owner who cares incredibly much about health and his client’s health.)

I opted against the fried fish and chips platter(suggested by my partner, tho I was tempted. Boy, is Cook’s tasty, incredibly fresh fish well-fried in the right hot temperature of  brand new oil each day so there’s almost no grease left but only fabulous taste!) I decided to let my adult better part of me choose  the grilled salmon, veggie, and broth-cooked tasty jasmine rice platter — not for me alone, but to share with my partner who also ordered a small cup of fabulous clam chowder. I had three spoonsful of chowder,  ate half a tiny slick of crispy sour dough bread that comes with, and 1/3 the platter. I was more than satisfied.

I’m convinced that satisfaction with food on this and most occasions has something to do with going for the tops in taste satisfaction and for the pure pleasure in eating well, not just in eating or worse, in stuffing our faces in the fastest possible way.

You may note another key point above, and it’s my use of the word “decided.”

I’ve always been the type that when I “decide”–and that’s a tricky concept– then I “do” and follow-thru. Sometimes however, it takes me years to “decide.” Like the past 1.5 years of watching my body change and change not in pleasant ways as I age gracefully, I hope.

STEP TWO: I also decided to keep a food diary and calorie-count.

I’ve been able to quit a terrible habit of chewing my lip, just by using this technique for three days prior to seeing a hypnotherapist I’d made an appointment with the next week after “deciding” I’d better quit this weird and possibly eventually seriously harmful practice.  On the phone he had suggested I keep and bring in for discussion a diary of when I did the habit,  my stress level at the time, plus a note of what I was doing and where I was.

Three days later I cancelled the appointment with him, and I never chewed my lip again.

So I got out my trusty pocketbook on calories, wrote down the general food items I planned to eat and quantity and calories, and off I went recording them every day…for three days.

And I weighed. And looked in the mirror. And weighed again….


The scale read…. (now, what it actually read is almost irrelevant because it’s not weight, but how you feel about yourself, your energy level, your zest for life, and your positive spirit when you feel you are at your “fighting weight” and are physically and mentally properly functioning and healthy, right? Right!)….

……120.4 lbs. I know at my doctor’s office as is true for most, four more pounds should be added. So let’s say 124.4 lbs., working on 125. I’ve prided myself forever in being no more than 118 at home, more like 116 at home to be safe considering my slim bone structure, height, and for feeling good about myself. Yikes: 10 pounds overweight and two-inches up in my hips? Impossible, and the ego finally kicked in!


Two days after starting my calorie count and food diary, I got it that I was eating about 50% more calories than I thought I was, and 50% more than I needed for my body size, shape, bone structure, and history–not to mention how that made me feel (sludgy). I didn’t need to keep the diary further: I groked the message. And somehow just groking it has helped me to feel full with less food this week, choose to eat less (yup, smaller plates and smaller slower bites help!) and I haven’t been wearing my corset! I haven’t a clue as to how that works, but I do know it does. (With a corset assist, it could work even better!)Small plates, small bites

Today is Sunday. 6.25 days after starting my lower-sugar program, I noted amazing results on the scales and with my tape measure. This morning I weighed  116.4 lbs.

I measured. My hips have receded 1/4″, my waist has receded 1/2″, I’m feeling the down trend, and feeling pretty fine I might add. All systems are “go”, plumbing is working just fine on hepped-up veggies and fruit, and there’s a ray of sunshine breaking through. That’s what just a teensy amount of progress can do.

I know that my weight and yours can bounce dramatically up and down by one to five pounds on any given day. I’ve not noted the same in measurements.  I still have not figured out the reasons for those amazing differences in weight, so I’m not about to trust my scale just yet.

But I am about to trust measurements, but moreso I trust how I feel.

I feel like I’m moving in the right direction. Even if it did for five days result in a low-grade nagging headache and continuous and most-unpleasant feeling of nausea as if I were going to toss my cookies (or lack of cookies thereof). It was far more painful than quitting smoking, or quitting drinking alcohol (and amazingly so!) But it was only for five days.

The going for you, too, is not going to be easy if you choose to experiment as I am experimenting with reduced sugar. So just accept that, but know that there’s an end in sight, because by one day ago the two distressing issues pretty much and most-gratefully have left me!

Whether or not sugar (at least added refined sugar) creates an addiction as the Sugar book author and others claim, I cannot say. I think it does. And as I’ve learned, perception is not something, it’s everything. I think I’ll hang onto my perception of enhanced well-being  for three more weeks to see where it leads me, and how the scale and tape measure respond. After all being accountable to someone, to everyone!, can act as a motivator in and of itself 9and that’s why I recommend a coach or a Training Buddy as a rah-rah section for your figure-sculpting efforts). I’ll report back then, for those who might be interested.

In the meantime, run don’t walk to read the sugar book, but be very careful about implementing every single thing the author says.

As in everything in life, every choice and decision you make: use common sense and what you already know about your own body.


Post script on June 29 (an historical day to be sure: hooray for our courageous Supremes who today finally legalized marriage for anyone who wants to be married in this country!)  I have been sugar- addicted much more than I believed possible – and received personal encouragement from Mr. Friedman via an email reply today! The low-grade nagging headache and nausea returned a few days after this post, after one day’s respite. The headache normally starts at 9 or 10 am even after a protein-filled breakfast of half slice of bacon plus one scrambled egg with a bit of cheddar cheese.  The slight nausea starts in the early afternoon. Some days by mid to late afternoon both have become almost unbearable — but there is hope! What helps me personally is EXERCISE! In my online research I read about exercise to help, so I have been faithfully every other day aerobic exercising in a group, with home-stretching on days in between. This has been my salvation while I ply the two issues with Chinese Po Chi Pills (get them in your Chinatown) for nausea and Excedrine migraine tabs for the headache. I’m still on track today, however.





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Addressing Corseting Back Aches, Possible Causes, and Relation if any, to the Kidneys

The Ache and The Concern About Kidneys Graphic for research project on aches (c) ROMANTASY 2015

Those who wear corsets and who may waist train continuously or from time to time, have occasionally reported specific aches located near or at the waistline in back, more to the sides of their torso. The area I am discussing is pictured  left in four white squares.

Incidentally, if you might like to be involved in a research project regarding aches in these locations, please let me know via email to:, and I’ll send you a followup questionnaire for more details about your experience.

Only a handful of our corset clients over 25-plus years have infrequently called those kinds of aches to my attention. However, I have personally noted them from rare time to rare time (details below), one of my team members has noted them once or twice after long hours (about 10) of wearing a corset she made, and my present waist-training coaching program client just noted them. That client has recently reached a 3.5″ reduction from her natural waistline of 34″, and is corseting from 10 to 12 hours daily  with a wasp-silhouetted Edwardian corset. She is pictured here at the beginning of her program  with 3″ reduction in her pretty corset. Before these many hours of continuous corseting, she had not encountered the issue.April training student 2015

Early in the 2000s I had investigated the matter of the kidneys and what happens to them in corseting and training.  I looked at graphics of the anatomy of the body and kidneys and asked questions of a few doctor consultants (some corseted and some did not) when I was first writing this book from 1999 to 2003. I decided not to comment in detail in my book at the time because my consultants were of the opinion that the kidneys are located so far inside the trunk of the torso, and are protected at the back by the spine, that it was highly unlikely they would be affected by moderate corseting practices.

I decided to investigate this matter again in some length because concern about this ache and its possible relation to the kidneys seems to recently appear and re-appear in social media comments. In sum, my recent research  supported my original view. As an educated layperson but without medical training to be sure, I still don’t believe there is any relation between the kidneys and sideback waistline, or other, aches while corseting.

I have, however, now become concerned  that vague or ambiguous comments repeated in social media relating kidneys to corseting may contribute unnecessarily and unfairly to prejudices and stereotypes  against well-made custom corsets and against reasonable waist training pursuits.

For those interested, the facts and reasoning to my conclusion are set forth below in detail and I welcome your comments and input to further my research and learning.


What motivated my recent research was a brief online comment in April, 2015 by an experienced corset maker, that almost certainly the kidneys are asking for relief if you develop an ache at the lower back on the sides when you are corseting. Many followers of her commentary thanked her for this notice.

I asked about the source of her information to learn more. If I understood correctly from what she replied, the basis for her concern was a doctor’s unspecified advisory about corseting and the kidneys some years ago given to her former partner, and her former partner’s present concerns from her recent practice as a chiropractor. She was  concerned because she said the kidneys were somewhat out of the protection of the rest of the abdomen being retroperitoneal, and mentioned the kidney punch (more below on that matter).  The corset maker was also concerned about possible extreme corseting in the BDSM community.  She remembered some long-ago concern about the kidneys expressed to her from a corset “trainer.”  No further details were provided.

I then found another website mentioning “the kidney feeling” related to sweats and a slightly nauseated feeling when corseting, but when I contacted that writer in my research efforts, she said her information came from the first commentator corset maker and I should contact her, which I had already done. It reminded me of the importance of asking for the factual basis of anyone’s brief opinion which may not be well founded but nonetheless can be rather quickly expressed, easily repeated,  and widely spread on the internet today.

My Personal Experience

I’ve personally noted just that particular location and ache when wearing a corset, but only in two circumstances: first, when wearing an ice-cream cone silhouetted corset, and second, when wearing it for over an hour or more. Sometimes when this ache comes on, it can become quite noticeable and unpleasant. However, I do not get that ache every time I wear this silhouetted corset, and the ache always subsides within a few minutes, perhaps half an hour at the very most, after removing the corset. It has not caused me to stop wearing this corset and I’ve never had any kidney problems diagnosed or noted.

Basic Anatomy

Cross section of torso Gray's           I re-confirmed the location of the kidneys in my trusty Gray’s Anatomy (15th English Ed.) Page numbers below refer to this book. The graphic here is a transverse section  across the body of peritoneum showing the kidneys, found on page 901 of Gray’s, and the vertical orientation of the kidneys below is found on page 924.

Of course the descriptions in this medical tome are far more detailed than any general discussion here can entail, thus I recommend this seminal and famous text to any layperson with a dedicated curiosity about anatomy.

I also recommend highly an even better anatomy text with astoundingly detailed colored illustrations by Dr. Frank H. Netter called “Atlas of Human Anatomy.” I have the 6th edition.

In general I learned that the kidneys are situated in the back part of the abdomen, one on either side of the vertebral column behind the peritoneum and surrounded and “mainly held in position” by a “large quantity of loose fatty tissue, hence rupture of this organ is not nearly so serious an accident as rupture of the liver or spleen… occasionally the kidney may be bruised by blows in the loin or by being compressed between the lower ribs and the ilium when the body is violently  bent forward. This is followed by a little transient hematuria which, however, speedily passes off.” (page 994).Graphic kidneys and spine Grays p 924 In these graphics you can see how the spine is closer to the outside of the skin in back with kidneys tucked farther inside the body. It makes sense that the spine serves to protect in part against direct blows to the kidney.

“Kidneys cannot be felt (Ed. note: I assume Gray means by the doctor examining a patient) unless enlarged or misplaced.” (Page 993) The right kidney is slightly lower than the left. Each kidney is four inches in length and two to two and a half in breadth with one inch of thickness. The left is somewhat longer though narrower than the right. The kidneys are considered “fixed” but can be floating as a congenital condition.

This confirms information I was first given back in 2003 by my medical consultants at the time.

The front surface is partially covered by the peritoneum and partly uncovered. The posterior surface is not covered by the peritoneum but is embedded in aerolar and fatty tissue and rests on the eleventh (right kidney) or eleventh and twelfth ribs (left kidney). The main structures passing in and out of the kidney include the vein, the artery in the middle and the duct or ureter behind and toward the lower part.“The kidney is dense in texture, but is easily lacerable by mechanical force.” (See page 986)

To complete here our brief review of what’s involved, Gray says the abdomen is the largest cavity of the body bounded in large part by muscles and fasciae. It contains the kidneys among other organs and those organs are covered by an extensive membrane, the peritoneum. (Page 895). Dr. Netter’s book at Plates 309 and 315 shows that behind the kidneys toward the skin’s surface  in a person who is standing and toward the back are the Psoas and the Quadratus Laborum muscles. In addition part of the obliques and the transverse abdominus muscles end close to the same vertical height as and behind the kidneys also toward the back of the torso. The peritoneum is the largest serous membrane in the body. In the male it is a closed sac and in the female the fallopian tubes open directly into the peritoneal cavity. The viscera inside (the peritoneum) can glide freely against he wall of the abdominal cavity or upon one another with the least possible amount of friction because of serious fluid. (Page 898).

Comments from Physicians

One of my clients and gracious periodic advisers on medical and anatomical matters is a physician who has worn corsets since 1963, Dr. Milt Simmons. Dr. Simmons practiced medicine for 43 years and is Board Certified in Family Practice. He also was on the faculty at Wayne State University School of Medicine in the Department of Family Practice for 27 years. He served as Preceptor and Clinical Assistant Professor until retiring in 2005.

Dr. Simmons also wears back braces, including medical corsets as well as modern-day custom corsets. In mid-April of 2015 he told me that he once wore an orthopedic corset 24 hours a day for six days straight before he started to get relief from back pain. He also wore another one called a “Bob’s special” which was all plastic and 1/8- inch thick. “There is no movement with this one as four heavy straps keeps one well encased from below the breasts to the groin.” For the past ten years or so Dr. Simmons has worn custom corsets formerly by Amy of Wasp Creations, and more recently by ROMANTASY’s Sharon. He wears them approximately four days a week for up to 14 hours each day.

He reports that his corsets  “are a welcome relief compared to those prior types, but one gets used to them to get pain relief.” Sharon’s custom corset designed and produced to specifications from Dr. Simmons is called the “Golf Corset.” It enables him to play golf without injuring his back or causing pain. We tell more of his story on our website’s FAQ page under the question about health and corseting, if you are interested.

In telephone conversations in late April, Dr. Simmons confirmed my understanding that the kidney is not a floating organ in the abdomen. “It is in it’s own retroperitoneal space separated from the larger peritoneum which contains the major organs of the body such as liver, spleen, pancreas, stomach, intestines and in the female, the reproductive organs. “Both kidneys have non-connecting spaces with adrenal glands attached to the upper pole of the kidney. There is a thick membrane called Gerod’s fashia protecting both kidneys. The ureters coming off the kidneys and renal arteries coming off the aorta and the veins going to the inferior Vena Cava, are all well protected in the retroperitoneal area. “Basically there are three peritoneums, with the lesser peritoneum coming off the main peritoneum then ducking behind the stomach toward the pancreas. It would take a lot of constant pressure to get to the kidney.”

          Dr. Simmons was then courteous enough on April 23 to consult a nephrologist colleague with a specialty in kidneys. He presented the question about corsetry and the kidney. The answer was “that the kidney is generally so well protected by bone, location, geriod fachia, fat, and its retroperitoneum coverage that the corset does not become a problem here.” (Emphasis added)

I then located a detailed but undated paper by a resident physician at Doctors Hospital in Columbus, Ohio, entitled “Boxing and Kidney Damage.” For anyone concerned about this matter it is worth a read at: The latest source for the paper was from 1993 so this might be an older document to be sure. This physician confirmed the above-stated information that: “The kidneys are well protected by virtue of their retroperitoneal location.” The physician also confirmed that: “The kidneys are located in a paravertebral gutter on either side of the vertebral column through the lower thoracic and upper lumbar levels. Each kidney is suspended in a shock absorbing fat and fibrous connective tissue capsure. Anteriorly, the kidneys are protected by the abdominal viscera and the internal and external obliquus muscles and the transversus abdominis muscles. Posteriorly, the kidneys are protected by the lower ribs and the vertebral column and by the quadratus lumborum, the sacrospinalis and the latissimus dorsi muscles. Laterally, the rib cage surrounds the upper third of the right kidney and the upper half of the left kidney. The kidneys are not rigidly fixed. They are held in position by the renal fascia and the large renal arteries and veins. Their attachment affords the kidneys an ability to move.”

A corseting physician with a specialty in the heart and coronary health, one who has ordered and worn about six corsets from ROMANTASY over the past 15 years, also confirmed that “the kidneys are so deep within the abdominal cavity that they are protected from the squeezing.”

Other Information

As with most any question on the impact of corseting on the body, there is little to no research and not many comments about actual or possible kidney damage caused by or contributed to by corseting.

And once more I make my point: just because something moves inside us does not necessarily and automatically equate with damage (think pregnancy)–so let’s stop thinking in that nonsensical way.

Likely the best modern pronouncement on the topic of organ movement was called to my attention by Lucy Williams, our Canadian corset educator colleague. It is the video presentation from an October 2014 Quiz How of the MRI of a corset wearer, the burlesque dancer Eden Berlin. German medical doctor and TV sensation Dr. Eckhart von Hirschhausen studied how a well-shaped and apparently custom  corset moves organs in a tightlacer on his October 2nd episode of his gameshow, Hirschhausens Quiz Des Menschen (“Hirschhausen’s Quiz of the Human [body]”). Of course the corset was not boned with metal as that would have been quite dangerous (the magnet might have torn the metal thru the soft body tissue!). You should certainly visit Lucy’s article on the program (she had it translated from German) here:

As the principle result of his MRI Dr. Ekhart concluded that the intestine is “trapped and digestion slowed”. Lucy also notes from her review of the video that “While it might not have been explicitly mentioned, from the image we also now have confirmation that the liver and stomach move upwards (and the liver remains pretty much in the same shape) and they are not forced down below the waist like some horrendous illustrations once claimed.”

          Dr. X is a retired coroner with over 30 years of medical practice in a major urban area and a present day forensic expert in crush injuries. He has been a ROMANTASY resource on the anatomy and various medical issues since publication of this book. He reminded me that MRI’s likely do not produce a 100 percent correct orientation of the organ position when corseted, because they are taken lying down and we tend to wear corsets while standing. Organs may therefore show on an MRI as in a slightly higher position in the body.

From my own experience wearing corsets I’ve noted some rib as well as organ movement, some differences in my body’s functions, and variations in comfort level when I wear different styles or different silhouettes of corsets. I was initially curious as to why the underbust Victorian style and often the hourglass- silhouetted corset always seemed best for training purposes. I discuss these differences in some detail in my book, but let’s return to the kidney.

The German MRI showed that the kidneys weren’t much affected either in position or in function, but how the doctor could determine anything about function relying on only one MRI without a longitudinal study is not clear to me!

On February 12, 2015 Dr. Oz hosted a television show on “Waist Training – Is it Safe?” He had an MRI done of a “corseted” guest, however the guest was not wearing a custom steel-boned corset, but merely a latex, stretchy and wrinkled cincher of an undetermined kind and brand. What he found was that his guest’s waistline was reduced by two inches, and the kidneys, liver, diaphragm and intestines were all “squeezed up.” He also noted a rippling effect in the sides of the liver which he attributed to the ribs pressing in on that maleable organ.

When Dr. Simmons reviewed the tv segment he noted that the “corset” was not a boned corset and that it appears that the guest’s waistline was indented or brought in about one or two inches more on one side than on the other, from a front view. The “corset” did not appear to have a graded or even pressure around the torso.

Dr. Simmons also noted that the ripple effect Dr. Oz noted on the MRI in the liver, was not that unusual or concerning, since the liver normally fits into the 9th and 10th ribs and evidences at least two indentations therefore, more or less the same thing that Dr. Oz noted.

As noted in Grays at page 933 the liver’s “consistence is that of a soft solid; it is, however friable and easily lacerated.” However, I did not see any measurement of how high the organs moved in Grays, and Dr. Oz did not describe any kind of damage just from the fact of kidney or organ movement, although he indicated some concern. He said he “has an issue” with what he found from the MRI, but what issue is that? Perhaps he will explain in a further show on corsets.

You can read an excellent point-by-point response to Dr. Oz by Lucy Williams on her blog at: The Kidney Shot–A Related Advisory for Corset Wearers? Graphic - Petit's Triangle

The corset maker who motivated my present research to be sure I had up-to-date medical information and thinking, mentioned the kidney shot issue. That is certainly worth a look.

Dr. Simmons had already advised me that “there is a possibility that small triangle which is formed by two muscles (the lattisimum dorsi and the internal oblique), and the bone structure of the superior iliac rim at its base, could be weakened and allow pressure placed in the area to be felt.”

The area is described by Gray as an interval is called Petit’s Triangle. You will see the area labeled on the graphic from page 338 of Gray’s. In boxing one refers to it as the “kidney punch area.” I’ve also seen it called “the kidney shot” area; see, I’ve both read that it is and is not illegal, and that it is illegal if it is “purposeful.” says that it is illegal, at: : “Kidney punches are illegal in boxing. A hard blow to a kidney can bruise or cut the organ, or even tear it loose from the blood vessels that supply it. Damage can range from mild pain to blood in the urine to anemia, kidney failure, shock and even death. That’s why the rules of boxing, which generally prohibit any punch to the back, pay special attention to the kidney area.” says: “A punch to a kidney can severely bruise and cut the kidney. An especially strong kidney punch can cause a kidney to tear loose from blood vessels. Damage from a kidney punch ranges in severity from very mild pain to bloody urine, anemia, shock, kidney failure and, in the worst cases, death. A person punched in the kidney who experiences lasting pain or bloody urine should seek immediate medical attention.”

Remember that Dr. Gray noted that the kidney “is easily lacerable by mechanical force” and: “occasionally the kidney may be bruised by blows in the loin or by being compressed between the lower ribs and the ilium when the body is violently bent forward.” (emphasis added).”

As for other effects on the kidney in the case of boxers, the doctor mentioned above in his paper noted that “there is little information to support proposals that changes in the urine of boxers is related to direct trauma to the kidneys.” Other possibilities mentioned are the crouched position of the boxer, the “grunt reflex,” and trauma to the bladder. He said that many possibilities exist for changes in urine and kidney damage. For example, it can be related to sudden acceleration or deceleration injury and other. The doctor also concluded that there is little research on sports injuries and that more research is needed.

          Sound familiar?

The fact is, in boxing the punch would be sharp, quick, and hard. The punch could be fairly characterized as a “blow” and it’s not hard to imagine a boxer violently bending forward from such, or grunting. But let’s get a grip here. Did you hear me talking anywhere in this blog or my Corset Magic book about a punch or a focused violent blow to your kidney area, or anything other than very gradual, not-very-restrictive initial lacing on of a well-fitting, double steel-boned custom corset? I didn’t think so.

Yes, a corset is a type of “mechanical force” but it is most typically worn in safer circumstances in general than in a violent boxing match, not to mention that tightening is done gradually over months after your first build up your hours of comfy wear– three months in the case of our recommended waist training program.

As a final point, I also always recommend to my clients and to you when you wear a corset that you not bend precipitously or continuously forward, or backward for that matter, at the waistline. The backward bend could possibly press on Petit’s Triangle. The possible result of the back bend when corseted is described next. Waistline bend in corset

Let’s also remember that back and vertebral bracing have been used for hundreds of years by the medical profession. I surmise that if untoward risk of injury to the kidneys from same existed, the braces would have lots of warnings out there or be of limited use. I can’t find one such warning on a few websites I visited, but did see some terribly uncomfy looking medical braces such as pictured for Ultralign at:

Probable Sources of Sideback Waistline Body Aches

Dr. Simmons posits that the ache we are discussing might be due to the corset as it is laced down, encroaching on the spine. It might be due to the corset pinching a nerve. It also might be due to a flimsily-boned corset that allows fabric or bones to collapse inward and focus pressure on a small area of the torso.

In the picture above of the backwards-bending bride being kissed, you can clearly see the boning bending inward at the waistline, even in a double steel-boned custom corset that she was wearing. This kind of focused pressure can develop aches and pains that I like to call “hot spots” because at their worse to me, they render a burning or pricking sensation. Whether or not the corset or bent boning actually touches the small triangle area and presses on the kidneys is not clear, but based on my investigation so far,  that seems unlikely.

Assuming a proper corset properly worn, Dr. Simmons told me that it “provides gradient pressure that supports the area covered and the organs. It does not impinge on a focused or targeted area.” In other words, a corset will typically distribute and minimize pressure from restriction about the entire torso. To illustrate what he meant Dr. Simmons added that when the custom corset is properly laced and worn, one can imagine the pressure as millions of arrows from all points on the skin where the corset is touching, pointing inward, with millions of counter arrows on the inside pointing out. In other words, when corseting there is at one and the same time pressure inward and also an opposite pressure outward by the body’s internal contents. This counter pressure helps keep the spine straight and erect. It also tends to keep organs secure even if they can or do move around in the abdomen

Thus I believe that the corset is one of the better ways to protect the organs including the kidneys. The corset applies its pressure in a gradient manner of even pressure over a large area, and I think this impedes the destruction of a given specific area (of the torso).” (Emphasis added)

This is one reason that for the beginner with all things being equal, it is possible that the best corset silhouette with which to train will be the hourglass. That is because that silhouette in my experience and in that of many of my clients and informants, seems to puts even pressure around the entire torso, rather than focus pressure on one spot such as the wasp silhouette does. The wasp might be a better silhouette choice for the advanced trainee when the ribs and pelvic bone become less covered with fat thus less, protected from pressure calling for more focused pressure right at the waistline in order to make further progress in lacing down.

Dr. Simmons is not too concerned about this ache emanating from muscles, since the muscles can adapt pretty well to pressure.

Other physicians posit that indeed, the muscles might be involved. My corseting physician Dr. RB felt that I must have been experiencing “some muscle strain perhaps along the pelvic rim or perhaps the inguinal ligament (if pain is in the front groin). At the waistline, you might feel strain along the lower ribs. Again this (type and location of ache) sounds musculo-skeletal.”corset worn too high on waistline

Dr. X pointed out that body aches at the back side of the waistline might simply result from wearing a corset a bit too high on the body, with the narrowest waistline part of the corset pressing just above the waistline. You can see pictures of that unfortunate situation to the right and left. Note that often you can tell if a well-measured custom corset is worn too high on the torso (normally measured to come just to below the bra underwire), if the top binding tends to fold or bend over, as is possibly the case in the beige corset pictured below.

Waist worn too high        Dr. X mentioned another possible cause of the sideback waistline ache, that is, a slight mismatch between the vertical proportions of the body and those of the corset, such as longer corset worn on shorter trunk. ###

          To reiterate, in sum I don’t think there is any concern about kidneys being involved in back aches or that kidneys are in danger when pursuing gentle corseting with a well-fitting custom or readymade corset.

Let me know if you find out anything different. ###

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Some thoughts about pain and corseting

Lacing help or notIn early April of 2015 I began thinking more about some comments I had recently read, and those over the past few years that I’ve run across, regarding comfort level during waist training or simple corset wearing. Some say that if you experience aching or soreness, you should either take a break from corseting, or loosen up.
The matter seems more complex and nuanced to me. Of course, those who hold that opinion are coming down on the side of caution and I can’t completely disagree.
Yet I wonder how many times you or I start to feel a bit challenged in some endeavor or when wearing our corset, a body ache or pain, and we decide to cut ourselves some slack? Maybe we do loosen up or do take it off and skip a day of corseting. But when do we “cut and run” too early, or too late for that matter? There’s no simple answer.
What if we are generally healthy and our challenge and discomfort has nothing to do with the heart or blood pressure or serious breathlessness, and doesn’t involve notable swelling, bruising, welting, tingling, severe pinching or pushing to the point of truly excruciating pain, isn’t clearly associated with serious acid reflux or migraines? Or what if in our subjective judgment (pain is, after all, a subjective experience), we do experience a bit of pain, yet decide to persist in corseting? I’m not one to say in all circumstances, loosen up.
Consider how many times we have put on an uncomfortable, perhaps pointed-toed, pair of heels and walked farther than was just comfortable, even to the point of getting some blisters. Don’t ballerina’s dance sometimes until their feet bleed? Haven’t we seen marathon runners collapse, or Olympian skiers and runners fall just before the goal line? Sometimes they struggle up and make it!
Some years ago when I was more regularly corseting and gradually lacing down and moving up in wearing hours to achieve noteworthy waist reduction and reach my personal best of 19.5″ (over the corset, of course), quite a few times I kept my corset on and tight-laced beyond just discomfort and even yes, into a good bit of pain. My waistline would ache terribly and I would want out in the worst way. But I would distract myself, move positions, eye the clock, and decide how much longer I could tolerate the challenge.
If we don’t challenge ourselves to reach the boundaries of pain and sometimes beyond, especially as we become experienced corset-wearers with well-seasoned corsets, I’m not certain that we have given waist training our best effort.
My ultimate perspective on the matter is derived from my position of being first a radical feminist and second, a “leaning Libertarian.” You may then understand that at base I believe it is your choice to make in most everything in life including corseting, and my opinion or advice about pain and when to loose up or take your corset off is at base irrelevant.


Postscript: I just saw the newscast on May 8 Friday and Channel 7’s Person of the Week: Sarah Cudd. In fact, Captain Sarah Cudd. Cameras filmed the last few feet of her 12 mile hike in late April  to earn her Expert Field Medical Badge test carrying a 30 lb. pack as she completed training in the Army. The video went viral when posted on Facebook in May:

She fell at least twice just yards from the finish line, with time ticking away. Her army buddies surrounded her to cheer her on and encourage her to get up, to “lean in” (as Facebook executive  Sheryl Sandberg would say), and to struggle on step by step until she crossed the finish line in time.  No one could touch her to help.

Three days ago I watched Robert De Niro and Cuba Gooding Jr. star in the 2000 movie “Men of Honor”  about the Navy diver, Carl Brashear, an African American, who wanted desperately to reach Master Diver status, and who did so after losing an injured leg (his choice rather than be crippled the rest of his life). It is a remarkable true story. Wearing a new diving suit that weighted 250 lbs., he could barely take the 12 steps required to prove his ability in front of his judgment court, but he did. Two weeks ago I was astounded an my senior center where I now regularly exercise three times a week, to see a lovely, grey-haired petite lady sit down across from me and proceed to follow the instructor’s exercises one by one. Her caregiver was sitting by me. We chatted between huffing and puffing along, and I learned the lady was only 93 years old. Need I say more?

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More on Corset Durability

HOW LONG DOES A CUSTOM CORSET LAST?  The answer has a lot to do with care.

Corset by Sue for ROMANTASYWe like to say that a custom corset is strong yes, but it is not a Mac Truck! To get the best value for your investment of some hundreds of dollars, you best treat the garment with respect as a start.

Here’s a gorgeous corset by our former team member Sue Nice, delivered to our client Megan in early December, 2006. Owner Megan is an entertainer who wears the corset regularly to perform. The corset is almost nine years old and she returned it to us but not for repair; the corset is in great shape and obviously, has been well treated. She wanted us to add some pizzazz (see the silver braid trims and bow added). Here is what she told us about her perspective on corsets and care:

“A corset is a key piece of apparel. Not only is it highly functional, but its appearance matters to your overall aesthetic as well. It can create a sophistication of appearance that no other garment I know of can. You look complete. That’s why I see it as a key feature of my vampire look. You look composed and controlled.

“Now, vampires, in the old folklore, were blood maddened beasts with a hunger for the vitality of the living via blood, so what better contrast could there be between such a creature – a beast, really – and the refinement/ poise of a corseted figure? Vampire fiction sprang during the Victorian period, noted for corsetry, when everyone and everything was to be controlled in some way. Just as the vampire is a metaphor for losing control simply to survive, the corset is a symbol of that controlled nature.

“Not only does it look good, and have plenty of health benefits (my bad back loves my corset), but corsets can symbolize so much. With so many benefits, why abuse it? If it does so much for you, why can’t you do even a little for it?”

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Musing about “Custom” and Dementia

I would like to introduce a discussion about dementia and corseting. How can such a connection exist between those two? Easy.

My trusty New York Times Style Magazine from this past Sunday had an article  “Remembrance of Things Lost” by Walter Kirn. Mr. Kirn opined about the changes that have come to methods of remembering, to his family and to his friends with the advent of social media,  joy sticks,  iPhones, and Instagrams. He mentioned a University College London study on the alleged “contribution of technology to early dementia.” Those hooked into the new technologies fail to exercise their memories and brains, letting devices do all the recording, communicating, and connecting for them.

Not all that surprising.

I also loved another NYT Magazine  article, “The Enigma of Haute Couture.” Just this weekend I was cleaning out and organizing files, and found an article I had written in 1998 for publication in a small local San Francisco newspaper, on how clients did not understand the concept of “custom.” In those days in my boutique when they came to order a custom corset, but tried on a sample corset in a standard size, they often commented: “but this doesn’t fit me,” or “the hips stick out”. They failed to understand that this was only a fit sample, that their corset would be personally measured and made  to fit their body as nearly perfectly as our corset maker could humanly produce.

Or, they inquired on email:  “I want it to be as long as X corset pictured on your website”. They clearly did not understand that we couldn’t do that. Nor can we today. What we can do is make their corset as long as the specific measurement they send me to make it for their body.

It’s the same today, some  17 years later.

I still receive the same comments. Clients don’t understand that a pictured corset on someone else (a client or a model) might not look the same and likely won’t look the same, when the client wears his or her own custom corset. It will look like the client’s body but made a bit more svelte and shapely than before corseting. Still it will look like the client’s body and not my model’s body — and a corset certainly won’t “disappear” flesh or fat as some seem to expect.

The Times raised the issue of, is this kind of couture made-to-measure fashion “a treasure, or a relic”? He opts for treasure, and so do I.

But it’s a relevant question because as the writer opined, “ready-to-wear has superficially co-opted couture’s dazzling techniques and it’s sumptuous materials.”

Similarly, ready-to-wear corsets popularly called “OTC” corsets, have done the same to the custom-made corset business. A new custom corset client recently sent me a picture of her first OTC corset made in Pakistan. It was very curvy and well-proportioned in a lovely hourglass silhouette for her full figure. I’m hoping for her permission soon to post the picture.

But the curvy silhouette she showed me in her OTC corset was news to me. A few years ago OTC corsets were produced mainly with the U-silhouette or a tubular silhouette,  more or less shaped like the red corset shown to the right. That silhouette and the shorter vertical front are not good or healthy choices for waist training corsets suitable for fuller figures.  The problem is evident in the picture!OTC too short

The same problem appeared for my client, that is,  the corset was too short on the bottom half and did not cover or push inward her lower belly. The problem  resulted in pooching her belly outward under the bottom hem. Not good. Not custom. Not like her custom corset will look or fit on my client’s torso when it is delivered in a few more weeks.

You can see another example below left, appearing even in a fully custom corset, and resulting from the client sending in too short of a vertical measurement from the waist down. This otherwise lovely blue silk dragon BR Creations corset was just a bit too short to adequately control this client’s tummy. So the problem does not inhere solely in OTC corsets. It takes thinking, it takes research, and it takes careful measurements to come up with a good fit in a custom corset, certainly more than a ‘point-and-click’ kind of purchase. That it might take a few shekels more than OTC make sense especially when you consider the wisdom in the old saying of a “being penny wise and pound foolish.”

Sidefront too shortThe NYT writer said that couture exits “because it represents true luxury”.  That’s part of its charm and the “very reason for its existence” he says.

Maybe, if he is thinking of  haute couture from Paris, or luxe silk evening gowns in flowing fabrics and designs.  But a custom corset is not really high priced nor a luxury for anyone into serious waist training, or into moving downward to an ever-tighter restriction and long hours required for more advanced waist training.

A social media commentator blog recently solicited corset companies online who offer fully custom corsetry for under $400, and she came up with a nice list of multiple businesses, including ROMANTASY.  For quality, for durability, for many pounds of pressure to be put on fabric and stitching in tight-lacing, $400 is cheap for almost any budget and not a luxury at all, but a necessity in our opinion.

What the writer concluded was that couture thrives in part because it “represents the value of having the time to stop and smell the roses, or sew them onto a Chanel wedding gown, as 15 women did this past December. That took a month.”

And so does quality custom corset construction take a month or more — usually more, when it is made at least at ROMANTASY by one and not 15 people. That one corset maker is a superbly skilled craftsperson and artisan of corsetry who is juggling a micro business based at home to produce a non-fungible garment. It takes patience.

More’s the pity that so many still come to us wanting quick fixes for figures out of control (and how long did it take them to get out of control?), quick production times, desiring to “hurry up and start waist training tomorrow” —  and wanting me to tell them what to order.

We fervently hope that our massively-reorganized website in March just past, at,

(1) points visitors quickly and easily to what corset styles and fabrics are best for waist training,

(2) specifies how to evaluate design options and find the measurement form, and

(3) explains the differences between our corsetmaking team of three. Please visit us to see our changes.

But change at ROMANTASY still does not mean instant gratification of those who wish to waist train or do business with us and take advantage of our twenty-five years in the corset design, education and purveying business.

It does mean and still require time for them to stop and smell the custom corset roses, appreciate the luxury of being individually served in a very old-fashioned, personal manner, and enjoy the entire process of becoming a true corset enthusiast. As one person quoted in the NYT article said, those creating your garment “become emotionally invested” in what they do for you, and I might add, our corset makers take great pride in their craft and want to remain at the top of their skill level and profession.

The process itself and the time it takes might not be dazzling and it certainly is not fast — but you’ll be treated with respect at many micro-custom corset businesses today, and you  might even grow to adore how special you begin to feel, and what a treasure will result–one that will likely last you for years and years of pleasurable wear.

And at least, our corset makers won’t be contributing to dementia!







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What does “permanent” mean when it comes to waist training?

I just completed a 30-minute phone call with a friendly caller who had purchased and completely read my book, “Corset Magic: A Fun Guide to Trim Your Waist and Figure.” The purpose of the call was to get answers to her remaining two questions that apparently went unanswered in my detailed “how to” book:

“Yes, but… is the change permanent?” and, “How much will I lose in three months following your program?”

To verify that indeed, I had included the answers in my book but that this reader had missed them, I went back and re-read the first few pages of text containing a 2014 Update. Sure enough, there it was in black-and-white:

—“…success in waist training is also a matter of choice and not making excuses to avoid responsibility.” After that I discussed how a former student had visited me recently, but re-gained all the weight lost during waist training. She was using every excuse “in the book” to pig out on a daily basis, so no wonder she had regained everything, right?

—“… life-long habits (and excuses) take longer than three months to change. I used to think three months of corset waist-training was enough, but it’s clearly not. It’s enough to jump-start healthier new habits. It’s enough to show positive results 99.9% of the time, results that motivate and encourage us.  But motivate us to do what? Fall right back into what we were doing before, that got us here to begin with? Without one doubt, some positive changes we make during training will stick around, but some form of waistline-maintenance and periodic checks and measures must be implemented during training and must continue a lifetime afterward, if we want a lifetime of positive results.

—“If we don’t get a handle on what it was both practically in the real world, and emotionally or spiritually in our individual psychological world, that got us to where we aren’t happy with our weight or shape and want to change, then the benefits of waist training won’t last. We have to embark on waist training with corsets along with more self-introspection and self-honesty to identify behaviors that have defeated our goals in the past and threaten our progress today.”

What I had amazingly omitted to hit on the head right up front, was a point I made to my caller:

Everyone’s results are individual and unique: there is no way to predict with certainty what will happen after dedicated corset waist training!

I re-read my introduction, and noted that I did discuss my early-2014 failed experiment with Dr. Oz’s “14 day Diet” :

—“… my primary medical consultant “Dr. X” reminded me that any “general” advice is just that: general and not specific to me as an individual. As an individual, clearly I need some wheat and I need some fiber, in fact, a lot of fiber. You will have to figure that matter out for yourself.”

Although I stressed there, that results are individual, I had not hit the nail directly on the head! So now  I’ll amend that early statement to add that results of waist training are also highly individual, and depend upon multiple factors. I’m certain I made that point later in my book, multiple times, but it had been overlooked by my caller.

I often muse in my blogs about our psychology as human beings, and why we tend to do this or that, or “hear” this or that.  My caller caused me to muse about why it is so bloody difficult for people to understand that corset waist-training results can be PERMANENT (and are not predictable with certainty). To me, the clear meaning of “permanent” is  that you will or may lose actual, real pounds, and actual real inches off your waistline.

But many keep asking me that same question over and over. My client said that I “Just didn’t understand her question,” but I understood it very well.

Something else was going on beneath her repetitive questioning, but what? She was a highly educated women, having earned a master’s degree in history followed by a law degree. She was articulate, and enthusiastic about corseting and trimming her figure. She trusted my experience. She listened to my answers. Yet she expected certainty in my predictions for her, and still could not believe that the inch loss would or could remain after she removed her corset, so long as she did not start to pig out again on Krispy Kremes!

Could it be that body-dysmorphia was at work, putting up a barrier to her fully hearing and fully understanding  or accepting my words?

Could it be that she expected the waist-training process to be a scientific one, rather than what it actually is:

–a bit of art, a bit of luck, a good bit of genetics, a bit of psychology and motivation, a bit of discipline, a bit of luck, and a bit of science all rolled into one ball of corset wax?

I hope she truly groked what I answered today.

As a post note, I am more concerned about another matter than I am about her doubts regarding the permanency of waist training results.

The client told me she wishes to waist train  because she had met a man who interested her romantically, he had once felt a waist nipper under her clothing, and objected.  My inclination was to advise her to leave this potential partner in the dust, but in a fit of diplomacy I refrained from expressing my opinion.

What I’ve learned from coaching about 25 clients in waist training, is that motivation works best for us when it comes from the inside out, not the reverse. Waist training to please a man is the wrong-way up based on my experience. No matter, I’ll wish her the best of luck, and be here to answer her further questions and encourage her along the way.





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