Don’t Let One Uninformed or Prejudiced Corset Comment go Unrefuted

I’ve always been one to speak up about policies and procedures that make no sense, or about something that I feel will improve my family, community or personal life. That also includes corsets.

Some who first considering wearing a corset, equate them with being from the fringe or the fetish world. Some see only the sexual aspect of corseting, not realizing that corsets are worn for a countless number of distinct, beneficial reasons (See corset enthusiast/corset maker Lucy William’s book, Solaced, available on Some fear that being identified with corsets by letter writing, or by wearing the corset as an outer fashion garment, or even by stealthing and being outed in some way, will bring opprobrium down on their head. They don’t see sufficient benefit of posting public comments or writing letters to editors or to authors of articles to correct wrong statements about corsets, to provide personal examples of positive benefits, or to make comments on style, design, and construction. I wonder how truly harmful those comments would be, really, or even if they would hear any at all? Most folks are into their own things and go about their business with little regard for others who might be tangential.

Perhaps we succumb to imagined trauma when there is none these days? Corsets are worn visibly and are ubiquitous outside of a fetish content. With nearly 400 international corset makers showing their wares on the web and rushing out gorgeous custom creations to hundreds if not thousands of clients all over the world?

A  rather new BFF of mine is subject to the connection of wearing corsets with both delight, and with shame. Recently she picked up a stunning, comfy and well fitting new overbust corset by Sheri (pictured here with lavendar paisley corset fitting properly; note there is no “toothpaste” protruding underneathe her arms; nor in the back which is not pictured) who is now our preferred ROMANTASY CORSETIERE (send us email for a direct referral to work with Sheri on your design and style needs).

My friend doesn’t feel comfortable enough to let her 40-year old daughter know that she is wearing a corset as a foundation garment, yet her daughter commented on her good posture and lovely bosom supported properly by an overbust style.  In addition, she has gotten many favorable comments even tho viewers don’t know she is wearing a corset, many along the lines of “Wow–you look great; that inspires me to start losing some weight too!”

Her daughter questioned the height of her mom’s bosom in the corset. Of course the corset needs some seasoning to fit better over time, and it needs to be pulled a bit down on my friend’s body (with the lean-pull technique).

As another example, the client, not my new friend, pictured here is wearing a red Chinese polysilk underbust style corset too high on her torso, allowing her lower stomach to protrude outward. She pulled the corset down about one inch and lo! it fit perfectly!

My BFF needs to remember that a corset tends to rise when sitting for a while, and over a day of wearing. Wearing a corset takes some attention and some tinkering with height and lacing down; the best fit requires some adjustment during the day until the corset settles on the body. Of course, we’re so used to seeing ourselves slump under loose clothing styles, that just seeing better posture looking back in the mirror can be stunning, even shocking, and take some getting used to. Most of all, my newly-corseting friend needs to heed my advice to delay any negative — or positive ultimate conclusion if corsets are for her or not.

Aside from potential negative or ill-informed comments that need to be corrected when they occur in the media, often corsets in the news are simply left out in any discussion about health or body size or shape, or about fat, obesity, and diet challenges.

That’s true of one New York Times Magazine’s article from this past Sunday (see below). It’s as if corsets and corset waist training just don’t exist, much like society has treated women as not existing in  conversations conducted and dominated by men in the boardroom and conference hall. Women have to push their way in and speak up to be heard; it takes courage. Courage is more important than courtesy, as Senator Kamala Harris believes (she’s publishing a button with that saying, and I’m waiting for mine to wear proudly).

I urge you to consider pushing your way into any misguided corset conversation, or where your informed comment may be relevant, so that these wonderful garments and their many benefits become more broadly available in the consciousness of anyone who wants to improve their posture and/or lose weight or waistline inches. It’s one more option of self-improvement that has nothing to do with dieting and everything to do with feeling good, fashionable, feminine, comfy, and au courant!! We need every voice to speak up to address “The Corset Question” and diminish it’s ludicrousness and invented foundational belief that corsets cause pain.

On another point, one person reminded me to confront statements like I used to make, that modern day corsetry well fit and custom, is a lot more comfy than Victorian corsets were. But that’s simply not true — or women would have been complaining and not wearing them a long time ago!  Any custom corset properly fit, then slowly seasoned and worn properly on the torso and with respect to the body’s messages about comfort and health, can be beneficial, and almost never detrimental to health and well being if common sense is applied in the wearing.

If you want to know how to safely and sanely waist train, check out what a doctor, nutritionist, and corsetmaker say about my new “how to waist train” primer book (just $14.95 online). It can help ease your way into comfy waist training, and avoid most pesky problems that might occur for some.


Letter to the Editor, New York Times 8/8/17

Dear Editor:

I feel for Taffy Brodesser-Akner’s angst about weight  (“Losing It”, NYT Magazine 8/6/17). However, the public obsession pro or con fat (or whatever PC term we are supposed to use now), is about sexism at base. Women at the other end of the weight spectrum get trashed, too. Society thinks it’s just fine to lob cruel public comments at thin and fat women. What’s sad is that Taffy has not found anything to help but the old saws of superfoods, bariatric surgery, and the like. She could think entirely out of the box, and try corset waist training. It’s a fashionable and fun approach that’s completely unrelated to dieting. Simply don a beautifully crafted custom corset to immediately improve posture plus comfortably nip inches off any persons’s waistline. Soon looking better translates into feeling better, as do the positive public comments you’ll receive. Meanwhile the corset mandates portion control: overeat and the resulting discomfort reminds you to resist the next time you eat. I’ve coached students in the initial three-month process for 25 years. Wearing a corset gives them time for stomachs to become less elastic, and encourages the development of new, beneficial nutrition, food, and exercise choices. It shrinks the waistline in an amazingly short time, and you can lose weight if you want to. Better yet, like wearing panties or a bra, wearing a comfy corset occasionally becomes second nature to a woman so that we continue to reap the lifelong rewards of the initial success that every single student I’ve coached has experienced. ###



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4 responses to “Don’t Let One Uninformed or Prejudiced Corset Comment go Unrefuted

  1. How did waist training originate ?

    • Hi Markon, Good question! I’ve never heard it articulated, nor addressed before. Like you, I’d love more information on the intentionality of waistline-inch loss of those who wore corsets during past historical periods prior to, say, WWI. Thus, I only have some speculative thoughts to offer, based on fashion history books I’ve read, discussions with Dr. X who is quite medical-fashion conscious and well informed, discussions with my clients and corset makers, and personal experience wearing corsets over 27 years. However, none of my informants were trained historians.

      Since I don’t know your definition of “waist training”, I’ll use mine, which is rather simple and practical: using a corset or tight belt worn regularly and consistently for at least six days a week (or more days of the week than not) building up from generally, two hours a day building up to 10 or more, focusing on consistency of wear rather than tightness or the corset, combined with sound nutrition and waist-targeted exercises, with a goal of reducing the circumference of the waist measurement. Of course I also recommend the “roller coaster” method of waist training, that is, wearing the corset at about a 1 to 3″ reduction for most any waist size for two hours a day for three days, building up to four hours a day for three days, and so on until you reach 9 or 12 hours before you cinch 1/2″ tighter and dropping back to two hours a day. Of course as said, this is ‘general’ information. Some folks can lace tighter and some can go longer hours, but choosing a more moderate and slow program is always better in the long run, than moving along too fast or tightly! Always (did I say that?). (Being trained as a lawyer I hate ambiguity and vagueness, as I find it particularly unhelpful when we set about doing something like waist training, a very squishy term, so I developed the above definition of the process.)

      With the fact in mind that I am not a historian, Victorian ladies more or less followed the above practices but without calling it ‘waist training’. The result even if not discussed as such, was to maintain a nice waistline — corset wear seems to have resulted in minimal weight gain of pictured Victorian women over time with age. However, I think we could reasonably conclude and infer that reduction of the waistline was intentional. Surely we know from the movies that in Civil War times in this country, corseted upper class women strived to achieve a tiny waistline; note Scarlett O’Hara’s 18″ corseted waistline goal.

      Note that there were few corseting complaints if the following occurred: In Victorian days some children started wearing unboned but stiffened bodices around age 10 or so, and after puberty perhaps 12 to 14 years of age, went into boned bodices that were tightened gradually over time. What amount of time and what tightness, I’ve never read in fashion history books. That’s why I try to be very specific in my recommendations as to precise lacing down inches and hours in the corset for my coaching students, based on my experience in the past with them, with my clients, and with myself. Apparently in Crete, Minoan civilizations used a stiff belt for athletic competitions, one that is akin to the corset, but as for training the waistline down in inches, I’ve not read about such consistent corseting or belting practice per se in ancient practices, until Victorian times.

      Fifteenth Century to Seventeenth Century (pre-busk) bodices of course, worn regularly at least by the upper classes, were also stiffened with various types of boning but I am not sure that the wearers were wearing corsets to reduce their waistlines permanently at that time. It seems more that it was a fashion in those days, while Victorian women and then American women up to World War I, wanted some permanent reduction of their waistlines to result.

      It seems that prior to WWI when corset wear declined in the US and Europe, there was not too much conscious discussion of waist training. Obesity was not an issue in society, at least in American society until after WWII when fast foods came about, sugar consumption skyrocketed, Big Foods got greedy and television (and social media today) marketing of fat foods took off. We started working harder and longer hours with both spouses employed to keep up, with falling back on very popular tv dinners (high salt and sugar content) in the 50s and 60s. “Clean eating” and a focus on nutrition was not much in evidence when I grew up in those years (jr. and high school). We ate a tv dinner about once a week or more! And women and men’s waistlines started increasing up to 10 or more inches since then. Along the way, someone noticed that wearing a corset helped control the appetite and thus, “waist training” was born.

      It was about the mid-1990s that I first heard the term “waist training” coming out of the fetish community in the Bay Area, but it was not pursued in order to lose weight or waistline inches, but rather for temporary or permanent but maximum notable possible reduction of the waistline while corseted. Still, most fetish waist trainees followed some version of my definition of waist training in order to reach notable reduction of the waist. Some wore the corset long, long hours each day as well, but again, waist training was initially for a fetish purpose or pursuit. I engaged in waist training not for fetish purposes per se, but for personal physical challenge, to see how far down I could lace and how long I could tolerate maximum lacing. I also enjoyed the public notice I achieved on those occasions when I reached a 4 to 5 or more inch reduction (my maximum corset wear was a 5.5″ reduction from a 24″ waistline, worn for about 2.5 hrs). However, I only ever occasionally or periodically waist trained or waist train today, for that purpose, and mainly wear corsets for low back support, achieving good posture, fashion, and maintaining a 24″ waistline hopefully for the rest of my life!

      Sometime about the mid-1990s I had corset clients from my boutique (training mainly in corsets I had provided them made by Ruth Johnson of BR Creations) begin to report they had lost waistline inches and weight by wearing the corset consistently for about two months. I began collecting more personal stories and facts, and asking a lot of questions about how the process worked. Based on that, plus consultation with medical professionals and anatomy books, I developed my program of formal “waist training” to reduce waistline inches.

      You might want to pose your question to Tom Lierse, owner of the LISA website. Tom and I came to prominence as corset educators and enthusiasts (altho I don’t believe Tom makes corsets, nor do I) on the web about the same time, 1996. We have both worn, purveyed and studied corseting and waist training since then or before. You also might want to locate a trained fashion historian to consult, someone who might have the ultimate word on the issue.

      So there you go, best answer I can manage. Do let me know what you learn!

  2. Karey

    I don’t have any gap between my hip and rib bones (compared with average 3″ gap), so basically no waist. The easiest and most effective way for me to shorten bodices is to delete the inch each side of the waist, rather than at the marked points, which creates the required adjustments to waist width and shape as well as length. Without that gap would I even be able to move in a corset (no waist to ‘train’), or should I stick to above waist styles?

    • Hi Karey, I think you would be fine to waist train — with the proper custom corset that is well fit to your individual measurements. We have made corsets for someone with a 2.5″ measurement from the waist up to the underbust (side of body), or 3″. My guess is you have at least a 2.5″ measurement, as in my 27 yrs I’ve never seen anyone with only a 1.5″ measurement side front up (altho you might be the first!). The point is to get very good measurements done three times by someone else, be sure you average them, and then ensure that you get a custom corset made in a wasp silhouette, with plenty of patterning out over your lower ribs, precipitously inward at your waist and then precipitously out again over your pelvic bone. You do not want a U shaped corset that might or will impinge on the hip; bone and lowest rib. I’m really unsure what “above waist styles” means in your email but you can write more to me at: and send some torso pics. Be sure you visit our measurements page and look carefully at the photos of how to do that correctly, if you decide you wish a custom corset. We can put you directly in touch with Sheri, our senior corsetiere at Romantasy. She makes that most comvy, high quality training corset in the wasp silhouette! Check out her page under corsets, custom corsets and Sheri, once you enter Thanks for writing!

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